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У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 17:56
ibn_kazimir
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Эх, а ведь если бы не майки, то мультиплеер так и мог бы остаться бесплатным на консолях :huang:
То есть MS сделала мультиплеер на PS платным? :kojima:

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 17:59
Prosto_ya_5
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Эх, а ведь если бы не майки, то мультиплеер так и мог бы остаться бесплатным на консолях :huang:
То есть MS сделала мультиплеер на PS платным? :kojima:
Тенденцию задала :huang:

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: 19 янв 2020, 18:04
Prosto_ya_5
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Хотелось бы еще немного потрындеть по мощам.

Очевидно, что такой разницы как между PS3 и PS4 не будет между PS4 и PS5 и на то есть несколько причин:

1. Мощность консоли в TFLOPS. У PS3 мощность исчислялась в GFLOPS и составляла примерно 240, у PS4 мощность в TFLOPS составляет 1.8, значит у PS3 примерно 0.2 TFLOPS, 1.8/0.2 = 9. PS4 в девять раз мощнее PS3. Теперь посчитает разницу между PS4 и PS5: 9/1.8 = 5. PS5 будет в пять раз мощнее PS4. Разница значительно меньше.

2. Разрешение. Давайте будем считать, что игры на PS3 работали в 720p, на PS4 в 1080p, на PS5 в 2160p (что принято по какой-то причине называть 4К, хотя пиксели всегда мерили по вертикали), 1080p/720p = 1.5, 2160p/1080p = 2. То есть при том что разница в мощностях значительно ниже, чем в прошлом гене, разрешение при этом выросло не в полтора, а в два раза. У PS5 будет стоять быстрый SSD, вероятно это поможет разработчикам в бусте графики, но мы также не забываем про Ray-traycing, который PS5 должна каким-то образом вывозить (а именно картой на RDNA 2).

В общем что-то мне подсказывает, что ролик с Hellblade 2 был наебкой (при том что Секс скорее всего будет мощнее PS5), в общем буду рад ошибаться :huang:
Ты же понимаешь,что по современным понятиям даже разница в 2-3 раза по мощности гораздо больше тогдашних в 8-9раз.Так что если пс5 будет в 5 раз мощнее ,чем пс4 -это круто!Ибо ,как ты сам заметил,теперь всё измеряется не в гигафлофсах,а в терафлопсах.Ну как у оперативки-сначала байты,затем мегабайты и теперь гигабайты. :prof:
Наверное ты прав :huang:

: 19 янв 2020, 18:06
tohdom
и там и там 7 лет прошло.
пс4 оригинал была не супер мощной на старте, так что превзойти ее тех характеристики будет попроще (чем пс3 vs пс4).

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: 19 янв 2020, 18:58
Weisses Fleisch
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необязательно столько пиздеть
Так и не пизди, читер :lol5:
:gabelol:

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: 19 янв 2020, 18:59
Weisses Fleisch
metallsatanist писал(а): 19 янв 2020, 16:38
то они есть и в других проектах
:wanka:

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: 19 янв 2020, 19:07
metallsatanist
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то они есть и в других проектах
:wanka:
Давай, расскажи где их нет. :popcorn:

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 19:21
Weisses Fleisch
metallsatanist, RO2, RS2V :yoba5:

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: 19 янв 2020, 19:26
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: 19 янв 2020, 19:29
Weisses Fleisch
metallsatanist, у нас таких сразу в перманент отправляют, играем дружно и без хуйни :pled:

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: 19 янв 2020, 19:30
metallsatanist
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metallsatanist, у нас таких сразу в перманент отправляют, играем дружно и без хуйни :pled:
Так это чит из коробки, без настроек, без ничего. Если поднастроить, то можно себя за батю выдавать. :petrosyan:

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: 19 янв 2020, 19:36
Weisses Fleisch
metallsatanist, у нас таких нет. Твёрдо и чётко :igromir:

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: 19 янв 2020, 20:17
metallsatanist
Weisses Fleisch писал(а): 19 янв 2020, 19:36
metallsatanist, у нас таких нет. Твёрдо и чётко :igromir:
Это можно утверждать только при игре по лану, причём на железе и манипуляторах клуба. :ohyou:

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 20:19
Muammar
zibada, здорово хохiл :yobaua:

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 21:05
za1Nx
Очередные фанатазии о презентации и дальнейшей движухи по пс5
СПОЙЛЕР
from redit:

The event:
-The event will be held at the Sony hall theatre on the 12th of February. Expect a short teaser to come out in the next two weeks.
-The press already knows about it and they will be able to test games and write articles. There will be a lot of news and iterviews with key figures like Mark Cerny and Hermen Hulst.
-The event will be presented by Geoff Keighley and it will be a very big show. After all you have to consider that Sony has been quiet for quite sometime now.
-Sony's strategy has been that not to reveal everything in one shot. Things like price, launch date and shape of the console will still be unknown after the PS meeting.
Specs:

-CPU: 8 core/16 threads at 3.6 ghz based on a Zen 2 architecture

-GPU: "Big Navi"/RDNA1 based with some features from RDNA2 like RT and VRS, 12.2 TF at 1.8 ghz

-Memory: 18GB DDR6 at 576gb/s and 4gb of DDR4 for the OS (Sorry HBM believers)

-1 TB SSD. The SSD is a proprietary solution similar to a cartridge and you will be able to purchase them separately in a way similar to an old memory card from the PS2 era(1tb, 2tb and 3 tb variants). It is very fast: 5gb/s

-It has a separate RT core just for the audio, this is something that Cerny and the audio people at Sony (Audiokinetic) insisted on. A new headphones will be made from Sony, specifically designed for the ray traced audio in PS5 games.

-Overall, the PS5 is a much more balanced machine than the PS4 pro. This is much more important than just brute force as devs will be able squeeze much much more from the hardware.

Games:

-First game announced for the PS5 will be from Bluepoint, Demon's Souls.

The trailer will start with a dragon flying through the ruins of an ancient city before landing on a bridge destroying part of it, the camera will then move to a character in a knight armor. The dragon will spit fire at the knight that will be parrying it with his shield.

The trailer ends with a voice saying "The old one is calling for thee" revealing the Demon's souls logo, available at launch.

Very impressive tech on showcase:, RT reflection all over the knight's armor

-Ubisoft will announce their new AC title, Assasin's Creed: Kingdom. As you already know it is set in northern europe with historical and mythological elements. The trailer is not really a trailer but a long gameplay (10+ mins).

The game focuses on being a better RPG than its predecessors with multiple endings and more meaningful choices for better roleplay. Immersion is also a big focus, Ubisoft has created a believable world based on the kingdom of Ragnar Sigurdsson (better known as Lothbrok) as king of Denmark.

NPCs have realistic routines and behaviours based on multiple situations they can be found in (finding shelter from the rain, fleeing their village after a raid from enemy soldiers are some examples).

All animations have been enhanced. Now the main character (male or female like in Odyssey) moves differently based on the enviroments they are in. Animations are really similar to something you can find in a ND game with the character touching the wall at their side if they get to close it or struggling to walk through snow or mud.

As many other games, AC:Kingdom will use the haptic triggers to simulate the action of pulling the rope of a bow or swinging an heavy weapon.

There are levels, but they are handled like in Skyrim or Kingdom come where you don't require a certain level to enter an area or fight a boss. Here you can access the whole world from the start and fight all the enemies, of course it will be very hard because your character will be very unexperienced and at first they will handle certain weapons with struggle, it will get better the more they use them.

I got mentioned something about ray tracing being used to eliminate clipping of the various clothes on the character's bodies, but I don't know anything other than it may be a thing on the next gen versions of the game.

Available at launch, but after the current gen versions.

-Gran Turismo 7 will be announced featuring full VR and RT support, native 4k and 60 fps. It will be a technical showcase for the console. Available at launch.

It features a single player carreer like the old GT games and a multiplayer mode similar to the sport mode in GT sport. The partnership with the FIA continues and the one with Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes becomes even stronger (Lewis and the Mercedes brand are on the cover of the game and a big part of the single player carreer).

-New R&C game announced from Insomniac. Full RT support and sequel to the remake, but part of a new trilogy. Semi-open world with pilotable ships. It looks even more like a Pixar movie, this time on a way bigger scale. Available in 2021

-Capcom will show a demo of their updated RE engine and announce Dragon's Dogma 2 exclusively on the PS5. Deep Down was not all to waste and Capcom wisely decided to build upon it and create this new DD. It's a really impressive game technically. Full open world with fights and monsters similar to a Monster Hunter game. It will run at 60 fps on PS5.

It's unclear if the exclusivity deal has a limit or not. I'm willing to bet it will come out on Xbox Series X/S after a while

-Shuhei Yoshida will showcase lots of indies coming to PS4 and PS5 as part of the new "PS❤Indies" intiative at SIE. Games such as: Sky:children of the light, Inaka project, a new game from Jonathan Blow, Lost Soul aside and the new game from Ken Levine studio (not really an indie, but it will still be present in this short segment).

-TLOU: Factions will be revealed, coming to PS4, PS5 and PC these holidays. It is a multiplayer only title made to replace the "Factions" mode of the original TLOU. It features an open world similar to games like DayZ, but with the love and care that you can expect expect from a team like ND.

It will feature: different seasons like Forza Horizon 4 (each will come with its pros and cons), clan support, a battle pass, a fully destructible map, lots of depth for roleplay (players will be able to cover various roles in their games: doctors, bounty hunters, traders, mercenaries for the various groups of players, soldiers ecc.), the players will be able to build camps and even "addomesticate" clickers and runners. 4k/60 with RT audio on PS5 and 1080 30 on PS4/pro. Cross play is being experimented (the difference in framerate may be an issue).

-Sony reveals a new team based in San Diego and their new game, Uncharted. A sequel to U4, but with different characters and a few cameos from the old games. Just a teaser will be shown featuring exotic locations from all around the world and glimpses at veichles both aerial and terrestrial. No release date given.

-Activision announces Crash Bandicoot:worlds on PS4 and PS5 for then end of the year (think Mario galaxy, but with Crash Bandiccot) and confirms that COD will be back at the end of the year on PS5 and in partnership with PS once again.

-Square Enix shows an impressive tech demo of a new version of the luminous engine featuring RT shadows, reflections and lighting along with 4k textures and realistic facial animations. Very reminiscent of the aestethic you can find in a FF game, but no real announcement is made (for now).

-Guerilla announces Killzone: Breach. A mp only title for PS5 and PC. The influence from games like R6 can be seen a lot during the trailer. Full destructible enviroment and a "War" mode that features up to 80 players in a fully destructible arena (Remember that first Crackdown 3 demo?). Available at launch.

-Mark Cerny announces full backwards compatibility with PS4/3/2/1/VR and that PS Vita and PSP are in the works. The PS4/2/1 whole lineup will be fully compatible from launch. As for PS3 games, they will be made compatible regularly by Sony in a way similar to how Xbox already does it on Xbox One with 360 games. All the games will receive technical enhancments like 4k resolution, better AA and 60 fps. Demos for TLOU 2, RDR1, Jak 2 and the original GT are shown briefly.

-Last announcement will be a small teaser with in-game graphics of Horizon 2. The teaser shows an older Aloy meditating on the top of a Mountain before being attacked by a huge machine and hijacking a thunderbird in order to ride it and fly around the huge machine to fight it. 2021

-Please note that all games that I've listed are exclusive to the PS5 unless I've said otherwise.

-Don't expect any PSVR2 news. VR will be mentioned as you can see, but it is still a bit early for PSVR2.

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 21:18
Muammar
za1Nx, а если вкратце? :wtf:

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 21:19
Firex
-TLOU: Factions will be revealed, coming to PS4, PS5 and PC these holidays. It is a multiplayer only title made to replace the "Factions" mode of the original TLOU. It features an open world similar to games like DayZ, but with the love and care that you can expect expect from a team like ND.
:newfago:

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 21:20
Firex
фанлост рип :gabelol:

У Сони все пиздец хуево.

: 19 янв 2020, 21:29
za1Nx
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а если вкратце?
Название треда :huangh:
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шутка
Сонивстреча 12 фев, тизер в течение 2 недель. Ведущий - Кейли. :kojima: Цену, старт продаж, дизайн не назовут. Анонсируют ремейк ДС, Assasin's Creed: Kingdom, Gran Turismo 7, Ретчет, Capcom покажут обновленный движок и Dragon's Dogma 2, мульт ластухи на пс4, пс5, пк, сиквел Анча 4 не с дрейком, но с камео из прошлых частей, Killzone: Breach - мультиплеерная приколюха для пс5 и пк, обратка со всеми соньками, тизер ХЗД2

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: 19 янв 2020, 22:01
Weisses Fleisch
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обратка со всеми соньками
:gabe: